marco rubio talking about immigration reform. i think they want to get a deal on that, the republicans do. it will be interesting. i think the budget wars will be telling because this is still a huge fight over the role of government, over how much government safety net should be kept versus not. this is the battle that the president wants to have, and whether it's paul ryan or other potential candidates in 2016, you know, that's where a lot is going to be decided many terms of this coalition politics that they want to play in a presidential race. >> paul ryan's moves in williamsburg even before these winter meetings telling the caucus we have to make this deal on the debt ceiling and fight -- live to fight another day, he really is looking more and more like a 2016 possibility because he is trying to recast the posture of the party. >> i don't know where he gets tough sacrifices. what he asked before, and now he wants to do a budget of ten years that will balance the budget. you know, to do that would require even more drastic c